Greg Detre
Sunday, 21 January, 2001
Dr Rosen, post-Kantian II
How, in Nietzsche�s
view, does tragedy enable human beings to accept the world?
What
led to its demise?
BT - puts the drive for truth in context
pay attention to Socratism as that which corrodes tragedy
Nietzsche lectures on Philology
Danto
Nehemas
Schacht
Janaway � Willing and nothingness in Schopenhauer
Silk and Stern � Nietzsche on tragedy
art quotes � 476
Schop: �will� as the world in itself � formless, aimless, turbulent, principle
tragedy exposes the suffering and absurdity of life = Dionysiac wisdom, e.g. Hamlet
art � overcoming and transfiguration
art-life
Ubermensch as symbol of human rising to the level of art, struggle sublimated to creativity above the all too human
Apoll + Dion = art-states of nature (pg 483)
Kaufman doesn�t see Nietzsche as opposed to Socratism - is Socratism necessary then???
how is the Apollonian important in tragic drama? redemption in illusion
bio of Nietzsche + Wagner, BT�s uproar
abstract willing � metaphys lava
2 not wholly opposing forces/categories
epic poetry + visual arts vs music + tragic drama: Apolline + Dionysiac: dream vs intoxication/rapture
� quote in no 3
Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides
does Nietzsche spurn all consolation?
sublime + comedy in no 7
10b
chorus
satyr + Prometheus = Dionysiac
distaste for Euripides + New Comedy in no 11 � spectator on stage
anti-public pg 79
Schiller na� vs sentimental???
12a Euripides = traagedy without Dionysiac = naturalistic + inartistic
12 aesthetic Socratism: beauty � intelligibility, �audacious reasonableness�
14a death of tragedy in the Socratic maxims
optimistic dialectic drives music out of tragedy
14d definition of tragedy
Lessing � search for truth > possession
15d tragic insight needs art as protection and remedy
Nietzsche himself on the BT
Wilde preface on art and life
Apoll + Dion �art-impulses�
importance of art
what is Dionysian?
influence of Socratism
importance + consolations of tragedy
�The arts generally � make life possible and worth living� (BT 1)
his view of the world is �anti-metaphysical� and �an artistic one� (WP 1048)
art as �no more than a pleasant sideline, a readinly dispensable tinkling of bells that accompanies the �seriousness of life��
�art represents the highest task and the truly metaphysical activity of this life� (BT P)
�badly written, ponderous, embarrassing, image-mad and image-confused, sentimental, in places saccharine � uneven in tempo, without the will to logical cleanliness, very convinced and therefore disdainful of proof� (BT SC 3)
�to look at science in the perspective of the artist, but at art in that of life� (BT SC 2)
�audacious book�
quotes from Wilde � Dorian Gray preface
see Dictionary file
How does Nietzsche�s view differ from the usual view?
Is Euripides popular?
�plastic arts�
is Nietzsche not saying that it Socratism contemptible and sick???
cheerfulness vs naivete (17) vs Alexandrian
is he critical of opera?
how do they know he is referring to Wagner especially, at the end?
why is the book worse off for the last 9 sections?